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S2EP78. How & why she paints kitschy, pop culture inspired paintings (Full of candies) w/ Ingrid v well, Artist


C ONTEMPORARY FEMINIST PAINTER
Ingrid V. Wells (b. Rockville, MD, 1987) earned her MFA from San Francisco Art Institute and her BFA from Arizona State University. Wells’s recent paintings investigate how the elements of art can affect and improve mood.

She enjoys using playful subject matter to address difficult topics including women’s issues and mental health. Her work has been shown in the Bay Area at Voss Gallery, New York at the Untitled Space, PULSE Miami with Treat Gallery, internationally in South Korea at the CICA Museum and online with PxP Contemporary. Her work has been featured by The Jealous Curator, The Huffington Post, Daily Mail, BUST Magazine, El País, Create! Magazine and Teen Vogue, among others. Wells is a multiple time grant recipient from the Center for Cultural Innovation. Wells currently lives and works in San Francisco.

PSYCHOLOGY OF GLIMMERS

Ingrid V. Wells’s newest series examines the psychology of glimmers–safety cues that induce calmness–to serve as an antidote to triggering or negative experiences. This body of work is an artist’s direct response to the pandemic and its effects on mental health in the Bay Area.

“Conceptually I’m working with the psychological idea of “glimmers.” Glimmers are micro moments that emit positive and calming energy. They move us into a ventral vagal state of safety and connection. Glimmers are the opposite of sympathetic or dorsal states of response (triggers) according to Deb Dana, LCSW and Ruth Buczynski, PhD. 

From an aesthetic standpoint I’m investigating monochromatic and analogous color schemes and their calming effects on mood. Repeated simple shapes create visual rhythms that disrupt what might be the beginnings of a pattern in a surprising and intriguing way. Imagery includes rainbows, lollipops and shiny stars, as research shows that these types of shapes, textures and images induce happiness in viewers (Joyful: The Surprising Power of Ordinary Things to Create Extraordinary Happiness, Fetell Lee). 

These oil paintings are made as an artist’s direct response to the pandemic and Bay Area lockdowns, in an attempt to provide a positive mindset for viewers. All works are executed in oil on linen and based on still life references including small beads, decoden, charms …and of course sprinkles. Enjoy!”—Ingrid V. Wells

Follow Ingrid: 

https://www.instagram.com/ingridvwells/
https://www.ingridvwells.com/

Charuka Arora, Founder of Arts To Hearts Project

https://www.instagram.com/charukaarora/

www.charukaarora.com

Arts To Hearts Project

https://artstoheartsproject.com/

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AUTOMATED TRANSCRIPTS

00:00.00
charukaarora
Today I have a lovely friend from San Francisco probably the most delicious painter painter of happiness when I see her at her work I don’t think I’ve I mean always it will bring a smile on your face. And that’s why I really wanted to bring her on the podcast because of course we all deserve a lot more reasons to smile but also because there’s something so much deeper on this on the surface. What we see There’s so much that goes behind it. We’ve had her on the. Studio visit series and she’s also going to be a part of the studio visit book which is going to be coming soon. But before we go into all of that. Let me welcome my lovely friend incret welcome to the podcast singer.

00:46.67
Ingrid
So thank you for having me Jeruka I was so excited.

00:50.85
charukaarora
Me to thank you. I’m so glad I first we had you in the season. 1 of the studio visit series and I’m so excited to have you in the studio visit project book which I don’t know what it’s going to be still called, but that’s what I’m calling it for now and now have you on the podcast. Once we have so it’ll be like when we have the podcast Book. You’ll be both like in the studio as it attend the podcast.

01:14.58
Ingrid
Be great. That’s awesome. Yes.

01:16.80
charukaarora
Okay, would you like to introduce yourself and what you do.

01:22.25
Ingrid
And okay, well cheruka. Thank you so much. Charva. Thank you for having me I’m so thrilled to be here and it’s just such a very special Invitation. You know I Just want to praise all of the work that you’re doing with all of these other artists I think you’re up to. Like over how many episodes now like 70 plus ah like you. Okay, oh my goodness. Yeah I mean that is like um, it’s such an amazing feat in such a short period of time and we were just saying like oh.

01:42.41
charukaarora
This and 74 we’ve published by now today but we are we be recorded over eighty already I both record.

02:01.75
Ingrid
The the you were just doing this for a year a little bit over a year I mean phenomenal, totally prolific I and awe I mean ah um, wow. Um, yeah so I am Ingri Ingrid victoria wells and I am a painter and um.

02:04.60
charukaarora
Um, yeah, thank you, Thank you.

02:21.28
Ingrid
Primarily work with oil paint and based out of San Francisco my studio is in the dog patch district of San Francisco and that is where I went to graduate school actually in that same building I just moved across the hallway. Yeah.

02:37.47
charukaarora
Surely. Wow.

02:40.50
Ingrid
I’ moved across the hallway and was like no I’m setting up shop and have been there. Yeah yeah, it’s definitely quite ah, a quitet a history building. So um, yeah.

02:43.64
charukaarora
Yeah, I’m never leaving this window.

02:51.19
charukaarora
Oh Wow, you have a gorge studio by the way we’ve done the studio visit see so anyone who’s listening I’m also going to link the studio visit of Ingrid in this episode show notes but she has such to switch to gorges like I Love the sunlight it. We had such a. Fantastic time even in the studio visit.

03:08.51
Ingrid
So oh this studio of visit was so fun. Thank you so much for that opportunity too and that was like such a treat. You’ll have to come in person whenever you find your way to San Francisco I’m and tracking you over? yeah yeah I

03:12.84
charukaarora
Absolutely I am coming I am definitely coming I Love I’ll actually have to do like a city hop and like studio hops for for like with all of you and then I think the best idea would be.

03:27.64
Ingrid
And that was so fun and.

03:31.72
charukaarora
I’ll tag along and take along everyone who’s going everyone studio I’m going to visit and then two of us and then 3 of us and then 4 of us and the last point will be all together. Wow let’s do that fingers glass.

03:40.61
Ingrid
Ah I guess and then we’ll have like a big party and it’d be amazing I would love it. Yeah um I don’t know what else do you want to? I mean I make um.

03:50.56
charukaarora
Okay.

03:55.78
Ingrid
Oil paintings and I also do so then that studio I help run that studio San Francisco artist studios and and and they’re with a few other artists I think we have 10 artists in there now and like really advocating for um.

04:03.95
charukaarora
Um, wow.

04:09.47
charukaarora
Um, man.

04:15.56
Ingrid
Studio space for fellow artists and I love my studio mates so much. They’re amazing. Super talented and ambitious and I also run ah an interview project of my own called Twirl a decade of artists interviews where I I.

04:24.64
charukaarora
Yeah.

04:31.86
Ingrid
Follow the career paths of different artists for a decade and see like what Unravels I’ve just I started the project before the pandemic and it was very. You know it’s just a mystery what is ahead of us and I just am curious about how.

04:42.20
charukaarora
Now.

04:51.59
Ingrid
Other creative minds take a look at that. Yeah yeah.

04:56.59
charukaarora
That’s so amazing. That’s amazing. Would you want to talk about why I described your work So delicious for anyone who doesn’t know about that.

05:04.40
Ingrid
Oh well I use a lot of bright colors I like to have a lot of fun in my work and I um use a lot of shapes and colors that are kind of. Well researched in terms of things that make us happy that induce happiness and really thinking about that positive mindset aesthetic and why that is so crucial at this time when we are in this. Sort of worldwide unrest for 1 reason or another all of the social justice issues going on the pandemic the world you know, um Putin and everything going on with that terrible situation in Ukraine.

05:38.73
charukaarora
No.

05:54.30
Ingrid
Um, my heart really goes out to them and so yeah, it just? yeah.

05:54.63
charukaarora
Yes, absolutely tell me something we I discovered you we became friends and we met with the art queens and it’s been I think over 2 years now. We’re also celebrating art queens to your ans. It’s of course it’s It’s been 2 years more than 2 years tell me something I of course know about the yo glimers project and the work that you’ve been doing since we met but before that since this project was highly inspired by pandemic were you also making similar work was your theme always surrounding something here like. In that vicinity. What kind of thoughts and work were you making before that.

06:34.37
Ingrid
And yeah, my previous series 2 glimmers I called spectacle which is focusing on just like over the top too much I just wanted to put all of my favorite things all in 1 painting and it’s a big.

06:49.66
charukaarora
Hello.

06:49.93
Ingrid
Guilty pleasure project of mine I think actually all of my work is really like that like if I could just make work by myself and not have to show it to anyone. This is what I would be making and I just don’t like give Ah I mean can I swear on this podcast like yeah I don’t um you know I don’t really give a I just want to make what I want to make.

06:57.24
charukaarora
Um, oh yes, please.

07:08.84
Ingrid
That it you know involves. Um, just kind of hilarious little moments in reality television or moments in you know like I want to do a painting full of just nothing but frosting and. Ah, you know candy hearts or something just likes over the top and all of the just like really rich colors I really like confident markmaking things that are very intentional I don’t I try really hard not to second.

07:28.83
charukaarora
I Love those.

07:45.98
Ingrid
Guess my markmaking when I am making the physical um the physicality of the painting and just try to do it and a one shot go and um so I like really bright intentional colors colors that are you know meant to induce. Specific moves or meant to think about that and then I’ve always had you know a passion to talk about aspects of femininity and aspects of feminine as feminine spectacle which is a. Hilarious and you know it just gets into a lot of equality issues and so it’s all very like interesting to me. Yeah.

08:31.71
charukaarora
That’s I think something that I really loved that’s something I Really loved especially um I remember that I Also said this when we had the studio visit because on the surface when I saw your work it always made me happy and I thought you know it was fun. It was It was very you I think that’s also. Something when someone speaks to you. They will get probably that that energy because you’re very Energetic. You have this really playful energy and that’s I think something that also radiates in your work. But when we actually spoke you also talked about you know all what like you know what? how it.. What do we say like you know some not everything. What not oh God Not everything that glitters is gold I don’t know like like you know it’s like such a paradox because how it looks.

09:16.70
Ingrid
Ah, yeah.

09:25.75
charukaarora
Voices your intention and your motive behind and what the story is are 2 very different perspectives. Do you want to talk a little bit about that and how you actually got into that. That’s even even more interesting.

09:32.66
Ingrid
So oh yes, yeah well I think it’s interesting as a woman you get up you put on makeup you put it on pantyhose you put on a bra like there’s all this like okay we’re just doing this performance on a daily basis. You know.

09:49.51
charukaarora
Now.

09:51.23
Ingrid
And I thought that that was really interesting people approach you based on a performance and so that you know thinking about that in terms of painting you can make an approachable painting which is something that I think about quite a lot I Want to make my work very accessible and um. Very approachable to a wide variety of but audiences that are not necessarily from the art world. That’s important to me. But then there’s also like a surface read of oh look at this shiny object thing rendered in front of me which you know and then you know if you can. Read the statement or dig a little bit deeper read some sort of snarky sassy title that but but but but I just like love throwing on to some of these paintings so you know then you know there’s like just little levels there of ah you know you got to. It’s almost.

10:42.54
charukaarora
Um, yeah.

10:47.75
Ingrid
Like catching flies with the glow of the of the light kind of thing so it is very interesting to have something appealing on multiple levels. You know it’s appealing at a very surface level. Absolutely I love that I love like all of the things.

10:58.51
charukaarora
Um, yeah, yeah, yeah.

11:07.36
Ingrid
That you know make us magpies and you know have it be very appealing at a superficial level great. But then it’s also got to have the one two punch with the conceptual and you know, really a moment to present.

11:11.97
charukaarora
Um, yeah, yeah.

11:22.59
Ingrid
Research based data about what it is these colors and shapes are doing to our brain and why it’s good for us and why like right now. Why is it crucial to have happy things surrounding us during this time of like global you know? Ah yeah.

11:26.31
charukaarora
Um, okay, absolutely are more than any time any other time.

11:41.82
Ingrid
Global difficulty. So yeah, this fun.

11:43.35
charukaarora
To tell me something. Um, let’s talk a little bit about like from the beginning. Okay, tell us how you were as a child. How did you grew up. Did you like were you also very playful while you were growing up were you also very obsessed with glitter pains. Lot of your work is actually honestly a lot of your work reminds it speaks not to me. It actually speaks the little girl in me like it speaks to that aesthetically also like it reminds me of little little joys like I would I always swoon over like and. What I also feel. It’s also very universal like I grew up in India you grew up in the us someone may grow up like in New Zealand I know well let’s say grew up somewhere. We’ve all grown in different parts of the world. But there’s also this as a woman 1 but also as children. It’s like these tiny knots that hit on the same nerve and bring the same emotion in all of us and it’s like a unifying concept for everyone. So I just I’m just interested in knowing um how you were as a child. Ah, how these elements have have they been something that have been a part of your growing up all throughout.

13:06.90
Ingrid
So oh, that’s such a fascinating question and thank you so much for sharing your perspective on that you know from from your upbringing as well. You know I think um as a child I used to collect a lot of little things and have little collections.

13:23.65
charukaarora
Are you sure you used to do that as a child and you’re not still doing that. Yes.

13:25.79
Ingrid
And well now I’m still doing that now I’ve come back to that now that it’s like okay I’m an adult and I can do whatever the fuck I want I’m doing it now. Lucky Um I mean I used to have a rock collection and various like just all kinds of little objects.

13:35.35
charukaarora
A.

13:44.00
charukaarora
Um, yeah.

13:45.49
Ingrid
Now as an adult I’m collecting like basically little beads or little objects for me to enlarge on a canvas and and paint is still life. You know, kind of in a abstracted way maybe at times but it is. Ah, you know, definitely tapping into that nature. There is 1 painting in particular that’s coming to mind. It’s called shining despite the shit and it’s about, um, it’s ah it’s a big gold colored painting of stars and they’re very shining and it’s based on like a little.

14:04.69
charukaarora
Um, yeah.

14:10.55
charukaarora
I Just saw that I Just yeah.

14:21.84
Ingrid
Kind of beads from the 90 s and they’re like little plasticy beads and so it kind of touches on that particular moment but then also that color is supposed to be like 1 of the safest colors for children to be around psychologically and I thought that that was just very interesting.

14:35.89
charukaarora
Um, okay.

14:40.90
Ingrid
To to to use that color in a way that would tap into that as we grow up um adults kind of shy away from that color a little bit and go into other colors. Those excuse me sorry I just got a stece. Okay, they’re right? um.

14:43.20
charukaarora
Um, yeah.

14:49.22
charukaarora
Um, yeah, no problem.

15:00.48
Ingrid
Anyway, but ah yeah, there are some colors that really speak to particular parts of us and um, okay I’m go to edit out this news story about that anyway. So um, ah yeah, so that is pretty.

15:10.21
charukaarora
God Bless you.

15:19.68
Ingrid
Interesting to incorporate like talking directly to children. Um, you know which I don’t know is always done like when you’re making oil on little oil on linen paintings you know, ah to this certain scale or whatever I don’t know that everybody’s painting for kids but that is.

15:30.76
charukaarora
Um, yeah. Um, you’re all you K you painting for kids in us. Also.

15:38.19
Ingrid
Mind and yes, yes, it’s yes, kids because every adult is really a kid just we’re just like in a bigger body and you know and you know yeah making making that work accessible to children as well. Yeah, except for the title. Yeah.

15:44.28
charukaarora
Um, yes, yes.

15:52.34
charukaarora
Um, what’s your fondest memory growing up. Can you share like something that your fondest memory.

16:00.89
Ingrid
Fondest mening memory growing up. Um, fondest memory growing up. Ah you know one thing like if you were to ask me when I was a child about like a. What would you want to be when you grow up my biggest goal was to be an ice cream tester I thought like I would test out all of the ice creams and then tell them my opinions and feedback on that and that was my life aspiration and it.

16:17.79
charukaarora
Um, yeah, really.

16:32.70
charukaarora
Is a little low.

16:36.61
Ingrid
And when I was in high school is my first job I worked in an ice cream shop and oh then I achieved my lifelong dream such? ah.

16:39.63
charukaarora
Um, really yes, you moved on to like beauty you did like way faster than all of us close enough.

16:50.81
Ingrid
And well I wasn’t really quite a tester but you know it was kind of fun to like like have that full circle moment. So yeah I think that’s like a child’s a thing I also remember doing a couple of drawings.

16:58.83
charukaarora
Ah.

17:06.24
Ingrid
1 drawing that I did was of Amelia Baddelia draws the curtains and that was like a moment for me when I ah illustrated that book. Ah they have the illustrations in the book anyway, but we had to like do a drawing and emmelia badelia there’s the this is like a. Play on language and to draw the curtains can mean to open the curtains or to draw the curtains Amelia batilly would always like just do the other. Um.

17:28.84
charukaarora
How.

17:37.83
Ingrid
Like the other meaning of the word so she would draw the curtains of like drawing and painting and I thought that was fabulous. So then I did a drawing of that and it was just like ah a drawing of big windows with red curtains and her doing that and that was one of my early art memories and.

17:55.83
charukaarora
Lovely.

17:57.27
Ingrid
I Don’t know it. It really spoke to this idea of like even if I didn’t have this big like you know windows with the big red curtains or whatever then like I could just draw it I can just make it up I can make anything happen like here’s the picture like now it’s reality so like.

18:10.80
charukaarora
Um, yeah, ah if you can’t make it you paint it? Yeah, that’s lovely. Okay, did you always thought like did you always want to become an artist.

18:16.40
Ingrid
To some degree. You know that’s right, You know you got to live in your own fantasy Lo You know.

18:29.31
charukaarora
Did you think you? this was something how did it happen actually um, choosing I’m sure choosing the creative part especially as an artist is not is not like 1 of the most conventional parts for most of us no matter where we’re coming from how was that for you.

18:45.33
Ingrid
So well I don’t really know that I did choose it. It was something that I feel like I mean it’s funny when we talk about this pivotal moment for all artists and it’s such a good question I’m curious to hear yours really too. So maybe tell me indulge me and tell me all about your Sarah.

18:55.28
charukaarora
Um, yeah. Um, yeah force you.

19:04.50
Ingrid
Um, but um I went to school for business I did not do visual art until I was in my twenty s I couldn’t even draw a stick figure and I went to school for business I had done music before then and but it was like okay to do. Ah music. But then like when it came to college it was like okay you have to pick a real job quote unquote real job and you know you had to buckle down and so even music wasn’t really like ah totally encouraged as a serious adult.

19:28.71
charukaarora
Um, yeah. Um, yeah, of course.

19:41.11
Ingrid
Endeavor you know from the environment that I was in even though it was totally supported in many other ways. But so I went to school for economics that was quite.

19:50.42
charukaarora
Oh my goodness.

19:54.80
Ingrid
Quite a jarring experience. There would be like big lecture halls of 20300 men and I was 1 of 2 women in the room and it was very of course we sat next to each other and like of course we’re doing other and she went on to be an environmentalist in the super bowl but um and that you know there.

20:01.00
charukaarora
Who while.

20:10.60
charukaarora
Oh one.

20:14.80
Ingrid
Ah, it was interesting So I had a lot of thoughts about that and I I guess like even the men in the room were not really the men that I was like interested in immediately being around and then I thought.

20:19.73
charukaarora
You want to like go deeper into those thoughts.

20:28.33
charukaarora
Yeah.

20:33.51
Ingrid
Was kind of having a little bit of a crisis because I thought well if this is really supposed to be the point where I’m like enjoying what it is I want to do and like experiencing learning to the extent of like like the the whole. Idea of learning something new I Love that and I love learning about all these different things and I just was not enjoying my learning experience at the time because for me personally and from you know, like this is maybe not everybody’s thing and like there’s many wonderful people who have studied business and I’m not saying that but just for my own experience.

20:54.47
charukaarora
Um, and.

21:07.30
charukaarora
Um, yeah, absolutely.

21:12.37
Ingrid
Felt um, like just not what I thought it was going to be I felt like I was going to school to learn how to work for somebody else and that is not like what I totally wanted to do. Um.

21:15.97
charukaarora
Um, yeah. Yeah, you want it.

21:28.86
Ingrid
I Wanted to learn how to run my own business and be an entrepreneur and yes, yeah, and so I knew that I wanted to do something creative after actually.

21:31.99
charukaarora
Um, that was un move a very clear option since the beginning.

21:44.58
Ingrid
Was so thankful for whoever this person was and I can’t remember who this was but they came in and we did like and like lay on the ground business students and we’re gonna do a guided meditation and you’re gonna envision your future career and I just and I saw myself. Um.

21:58.79
charukaarora
Oh wow.

22:04.58
Ingrid
Going. Ah you know up to a 2 wo-story building and it was in a place with good weather and I like had a lot of windows and I was making collages which was at the time sort of my hobby making all a ton of Collages. So I Guess the early start of my orp. And and then I woke up from the guided meditation I thought ha that if I’m making collages that is This is not so Ra nice for to me I This is like I think I’m in the room spot. So and then I kind of just marinated on that for a while.

22:26.72
charukaarora
Um, what is this and.

22:41.49
Ingrid
And being kind of the practical person I was I started moving into ah art education I just changed my major you can’t you couldn’t take art classes as a non-manger. So I thought okay fuck it I’m just gonna move and to take the change My major I’m all in so then I did art education.

22:55.74
charukaarora
Ah, dedication.

23:01.23
Ingrid
Art education is great because then you can test out every different studio practice. You have the flexibility in the program. So that way you can learn printmaking ceramics photography. Ah you know and I did everything and I loved everything but really when it came to painting I was like oh no.

23:05.17
charukaarora
Um, oh.

23:18.62
charukaarora
Um, this isn’t it. Yeah.

23:20.21
Ingrid
Oh no, it’s over I Found my love of my life and this is it. It’s me in painting hand in hand until I’m like a little old lady dying but that’s it You know it’s done.

23:31.75
charukaarora
Ah, now I stuck by my computer stuck by my brushes.

23:38.15
Ingrid
Yeah, but and it was just amazing I was attracted to painting because again you know I had um it was something like that I wasn’t reliant on other people to do I could do it in. Um.

23:53.50
charukaarora
Yeah.

23:55.68
Ingrid
Any space a lot of other practices. There is more of a challenge because you have to share a kiln or share a press or share. You know some of these sort of bigger financial resources and I wanted to select something that I could make art no matter what my financial situation was that was very important to me. So and then I double maron and painting and went on to graduate school in San Francisco I don’t know how much of the story do have time for I’m going on too long now.

24:17.92
charukaarora
That’s prove up.

24:24.15
charukaarora
No I know you can go as long as you feel. Okay, let me let me ask you another question and this you’ve also briefly mentioned and before we started this call. We were about it used into something and we held ourselves back. So let’s go back into that. Which is music what I’m really interested in knowing is first. Let’s talk about the first half of the question which is moving from a business. Um, which is like you know we’re all driven I really wish that this doesn’t happen to maybe. People growing up now in the future generations and everyone that we always were taught to do the you know the safe thing the practical thing something you know, um, that made sense. Not only to you but more than you actually to the society. You took a decision of actually you know when you went into economics business and then you went polls apart which is like it’s like to who different polls and for people who believe like if this is practical. This is totally unpractical for a lot of people. How is that move for you. Um, were people around you supportive how how was what was your experience of even making that shift because more than anything your own personal mindset shift is so so important.

25:47.42
Ingrid
Um, yeah, um, that was a difficult time for me with other people around me for sure. Um, and I think that at some level you have to decide. Not. To give a crap about what other people are telling you about how your life should be or what you should be doing or how you should be performing Yada Yada You have to really dial into something much much deeper and say I have one life This is my life. This is mine I know that I have like.

26:08.99
charukaarora
Um, yeah.

26:25.19
Ingrid
Ah, particular interest and aptitude in this area over here and you might have like multiple curiosities going on and I just say like pursue. It do what you want and nobody else has to understand you nor will they because they have their own experience.

26:28.36
charukaarora
Um, yes.

26:37.11
charukaarora
Um, now.

26:40.61
Ingrid
And so at some we just gonna say fucking I’m doing it I don’t even know how to draw a stick figure but I can figure it out. It’s like like Marie foria Corleo says it’s all figureoutable like just do it like if it if you feel called to do something go like it’s like so you know i.

26:44.89
charukaarora
Um, yeah, yes.

26:58.41
Ingrid
You You have to have a really there is like a little bit of maybe bravery around that when it comes to like other relationships who maybe have thought of you in a certain way I know that people around me at the time thought I was going to be like a badass business bitch and that’s what that was I think that was.

27:01.92
charukaarora
Yes. Yeah.

27:14.17
charukaarora
You Ah you you still that you’re just abarass business bit in the arts.

27:17.10
Ingrid
Like like I’m just saying like but that was like that was kind of like the you know that was I was dating somebody at the time and he like kind of had this view of me that like I was going to financially take care of him and he was ah you know.

27:31.24
charukaarora
Um, yeah.

27:35.33
Ingrid
So that was he was a creative too and so like it was very um, it was just very different and ah yeah, you can you can go pursue your own dreams and don’t let somebody tell you not to do it In fact, like yeah.

27:39.64
charukaarora
Um, yes.

27:51.23
charukaarora
Did did the thought of um, especially you know you were in economics and your goals at that point may be entirely different that also included probably I think it’s only also a lot more.

27:54.73
Ingrid
Do it anyway.

28:10.27
charukaarora
Um, about examples that we’ve seen I feel like now people are going to grow up a lot of people want to become if you ask a lot of people like young children Now they say they want to become content creators. They want to become youtubers or they want to become like you know. Stuff like that because they’ve seen examples of what’s possible and that it’s not.. It’s it is and like you know it is a possible career. You can um have a financial stability and all of that it does not like you don’t have to starve because you want to do something creative all of that but probably at a. Of of course I knew I didn’t have a lot of examples. Um I’m sure you may not even have similarly and the idea of starving artists a financial um Instability. How did you like when you were making this move this transition. Especially. Um, have thinking of like a very sustainable and like this stable career a job quit provide versus moving into a probably I don’t think that’s absolutely true now. But probably at that point a lot of people would say oh this is. This is this will never make sense for you Financially, How did you deal with that.

29:24.93
Ingrid
Um, ah I mean I did have voices around me that were saying things along those lines but and I guess you know I just have an internal like rebellious spirit of oh no, no no.

29:31.38
charukaarora
Yes, Abby all we all do.

29:42.41
Ingrid
Oh no, no, no, no no I’m going to do it anyway and going to be super fun and you just have no idea you can envision it but I can envision it and I just you know have a deep feeling of like you know this is what I want to do I know I’m a capable person.

29:43.38
charukaarora
I’ll show you? yeah.

30:01.95
Ingrid
Know that I can do this I don’t know what the answers are what the steps are but I know that I can figure this out and I think like if you have that you know sometimes you get it can be a really tough place for a young artist or an artist who.

30:02.60
charukaarora
Yes.

30:07.60
charukaarora
Um, yeah.

30:15.82
charukaarora
Um, yeah.

30:19.67
Ingrid
And I get to I don’t want to say young I Just want to say somebody who is new to the field. Um, and that can happen at any age and it takes a lot of bravery and a lot of ah just like fuck you I’m doing it anyway. Attitude. Um, and that is sort of how I.

30:22.50
charukaarora
Um, yeah, yes, absolutely.

30:32.80
charukaarora
Um, yeah.

30:39.23
Ingrid
Approach anybody who’s like a naysayer of like even like you know you get in to oh of people like the art people don’t like the art people make positive comments people you know, leave 200 negative comments on your daily mail article like.

30:40.87
charukaarora
Um, yeah.

30:47.61
charukaarora
Um, yeah.

30:58.77
Ingrid
You’re like okay thank you for the flattery. Thank you for taking the time like I mean you just have to be like and take it as a flattering moment because these other people that are saying stuff like that would it just reveals honestly has nothing to do with you. It reveals their own limitations.

31:02.52
charukaarora
And. Yeah.

31:16.33
charukaarora
Um, yeah.

31:18.26
Ingrid
They would not be brave enough to do what you’re doing is how that comes across to me when I’ve been in conversations like that they would not be brave enough to do what you’re doing. They’re afraid and like maybe they’re communicating their fears to you because they like have some compassion for you. But.

31:25.44
charukaarora
Um, yeah, that’s how you do.

31:36.66
Ingrid
You know you got to get in with the people who are driven and like ah yeah, and open-minded. Yeah yeah.

31:39.30
charukaarora
Yes, and also open I think a lot of times what happens I think a lot of time. What happens is um, it’s it’s of course courage. But it’s also an example of there’s so much room that if you have the conviction that you will put. Hundred percent and that this is where you really want to know I know when I decided I didn’t know how I would be able to make a living I didn’t even know anything about it when I ten years ago when I thought I wanted to be a creative I didn’t even know what being a creative meant. The only thing I knew that I wanted to make things in. Honestly I didn’t have a percent of idea how that would make I mean how that would be possible when I thought art I didn’t know how that but there was this one voice that was like you know if I’m so convinced I can do this then I’ll figure that out as well and that’s also like it’s I think it’s also like.

32:29.60
Ingrid
Yeah, we are.

32:34.56
charukaarora
But you’re doing you’re you’re not only doing for yourself. You are making that benchmark and probably that dilemma that you have today and you don’t have an example to look ah out so you have to look within and you you you know it’s like you know I’ll figure this out I’ll do this I’ll make sure you know I that happens but a lot of times.

32:35.89
Ingrid
Yes, yes.

32:44.63
Ingrid
Yeah, yeah.

32:54.31
charukaarora
If you’d make this possible. You’re actually giving someone an example that you know that’s how it’s done. You know if she can do this I can do that.

33:00.96
Ingrid
I Love that? Yeah yes I love it. It is like that. Yes, ah Joruka it is like that if she can do it that is right? and that is how I feel about a lot of things.

33:08.12
charukaarora
See.

33:15.24
charukaarora
Um, yeah.

33:16.97
Ingrid
I mean there are so many wonderful artists around and so many. Um, amazing female artists and who are now all in touch but visible across the world because of these different social media platforms and things like this and I mean I remember. Like when I got my first artist’s website in undergrad and other people did not have artists websites and I was kind of criticized like why are you going to put on your art on a website like you just need to get a gallery and then the gallery will be your website and I was like no fuck way I’m just put my myself. I.

33:44.14
charukaarora
Oh Wow Oh my goodness I feel that yes yes, yes.

33:55.97
Ingrid
Own damn website and you know that was like you know I mean so that was the thing I remember but like that our mentors got to where they are in a very different way than we will get to where we are you know or anybody like anybody.

34:08.42
charukaarora
Um, yeah.

34:12.55
Ingrid
Doing a level up now at this stage is just a really different game. There are different tools. You know if Rembrandt were alive now and you know there was all this social media like you just kind of wonder like okay like if Rembrandt had access to.

34:13.42
charukaarora
Um, yes, yeah yeah.

34:26.17
charukaarora
How.

34:32.10
Ingrid
You know all of the print or all of the painting oil colors like you know I don’t know like there’s just people operate in different ways during the the time frame that they are doing their you know up leveling. Yeah, it’s very interesting.

34:35.63
charukaarora
Why he would yeah different ways. Yeah you know something that you’ve really also said well and important is and I think I’ve also experienced this personally. For me I’m a very curious person probably something let me share something very fun like I think my my podcast is is such a good outcome of that curiousness like I said and I told you and that’s something a lot of people ask me like you know when we when we schedule interviews and. You know they ask for questions and I always write them back like you know I don’t have questions and I’m going to just I have I know about you I have caught you here because there’s something that I really want to speak about and learn from you and I’m always cutous so I don’t think I will ever be short on questions. But I I don’t want to I don’t want this to be like um. Like a format magazine I just want it to be conversational and you know I think what something that feels as a strength today to me believe me a couple of years ago it didn’t feel like that I would always be someone a I was always afraid to ask questions because I didn’t want to feel like um, the dumb one probably. Because you’re always like you know us a lot of times people judge you? Why oh this is such a stupid question. Oh why would you ask this or something like that and what I really realize in this transition of experiencing different kind of people that what it’s not it’s it’s really not the strength of the weakness. It’s attributes. Um, something that I saw as the weakness before was because the people I was with because they were not of the same maybe waveland that I was I was always I’m very experimental I love experimenting I always like like if there’s something new I I don’t want to be safe I think I enjoy. Learning and exploring something that’s challenging and all of that and to some that does not make sense which is fine which is there. But also when you’re not in the right place that in a way puts you in a box then lets you go so you’ve you’ve really said this rightly because.

36:44.42
Ingrid
So yeah, yeah, so.

36:50.79
charukaarora
It’s very important for us to know that where we are who we are with I think I really enjoy and that’s why I think we all enjoy it together and that’s how we have all come together because we all have very similar interests like we’re all trying to do something new even if it doesn’t make sense even if the world care or does not care or like you know we. Go for what we want and want to try and even if we feel that’s okay, I’m I’m like when I started this podcast I didn’t even know how to hold a mic or polite record or all of that and I mean seventy four eighty episodes in now I’m sure there’s great progress like road to progress. But. Um I figured we all figure it out if we have the way.

37:32.75
Ingrid
Oh yeah, rock on. Yeah I mean well put I Love it.

37:37.58
charukaarora
Okay, tell me something about now I really do feel your experience and your interest in music has something to do with your butp. It’s very your work is also very melodious like do you want to do want to first? Let’s also share your journey of music. You also spoke about you came to sanfordz with you came to sans francisco because you wanted to pursue music and then let’s also talk about how painting happened and how painting in your music is is is there a connection if not if so yes, then how.

38:12.79
Ingrid
Oh my goodness. This is very interesting. Yeah so I guess ah yeah I I Originally my first instrument was clarinet and began playing that in I think Fourth grade started playing and then.

38:24.76
charukaarora
Oh Wow. Oh goodness.

38:31.59
Ingrid
Played with other people in sixth grade and I think that was the timing anyway. So I played clarinet the entire you know, really yeah since then and for a lot of my.

38:43.28
charukaarora
Wow.

38:48.23
Ingrid
You know, middle school high school time I thought oh maybe this is what I want to do to some level and that practice that that really just taught me about like pursuing something creative and a practice and also working with other people because innately is part of. Being part of a band. You’re listening constantly to what’s going on with others and you’re working collaboratively collaboratively with others and um, you know I was very interested in that in high school I in college I played. Um. Clarinet and I did some guitars and little singing and I played with a couple different little sort of like indie folk bands and played around Phoenix Arizona which is where I was living at the time and we did with a couple different bands kind of tours of the.

39:33.17
charukaarora
Um, rao.

39:44.20
Ingrid
West Coast to play at different music venues. This was the first time that I ah you know, kind of met and fell in love with San Francisco as a city and I just thought oh my goodness. There’s so many like weird people here and I love them and I identify with them. But.

40:03.87
charukaarora
Ah.

40:04.60
Ingrid
And it was just like ah so very I felt like I was home even though it was something it was some you know and sometimes you have that with people too like you meet them and you feel very at home and and just.

40:10.30
charukaarora
Um, as um, yeah.

40:21.77
Ingrid
Ease right away in your surroundings and there it was just a kind of a deeper knowing there I think and so then when it came time to think about graduate school. You know I just was really hoping that San Francisco would work out and I did go to graduate school in San Francisco San Francisco art institute and had quite a ride there and it was you know? Yeah So then I graduated and have been making art since really. So yeah i.

40:54.17
charukaarora
Did you ever think about pursuing music as like a profession like you did as with arts why didn’t I mean is there a connection between the 2 tas music affect your art today. Do you soon? practice music.

41:07.50
Ingrid
Yeah I think music does affect the way that I think about color combinations I think there’s a relationship in like in a musical chord when you think about the different tones that you’re using in a chord versus the color combinations that you’re using in a painting and. And I think that you know it evokes different moods if you’re moving from major to minor and I think about that a lot with um color schemes in in my work and my recent work and thinking about repetition and um, you know? Yeah, we have a. Ah, print up now of one of my paintings called sympathetic vibrations which is actually print that we’re doing I’m doing with boss gallery to all of the proceeds go to voices of children which is um. Program for an organization nonprofit organization in Ukraine to support the psychological and psychosocial well-being of everyone the children in Ukraine right now. So yeah, and and that painting that image is a painting of blue stars and it’s. Repeated um, blue stars all over the surface and stars are the most hopeful shape and that sort of repetition and those particular colors I do think about like that analogous color scheme you know in relationship to music and.

42:39.19
charukaarora
Music Lovely time is something um how how do you begin your work like a firstly I think like how do you even come up with these like these objects like you know you always.

42:41.75
Ingrid
Yeah, yes.

42:57.99
charukaarora
Make Me remind of when I was a little girl like you know those clips The stars. Um the smileies on the rainbows or the spring claws. Um is there like a way that you are um, you’re collecting these objects and. Ideas and then you bring them onto the canvas. How these how do these ideas ideas originate for you. Do you have a process probably.

43:19.67
Ingrid
And yeah I do like a lot of looking around for things that I love and do it like keep a lot of collections basically and and it is in part why I keep collections of small objects is because I keep a lot of collections. So.

43:32.23
charukaarora
Yeah, who.

43:37.20
Ingrid
I Have to like have just a lot of small things right now I’ve even resorted to making ah paintings that are based on confetti. So it’s very very tiny tiny things. Yes, yeah.

43:47.74
charukaarora
Yes, so are you collecting like confetti. Oh God where are used to wear storing all of this because I’m coming for you now I think I will will learn.

43:55.16
Ingrid
So collecting.

44:00.20
Ingrid
Ah, oh yeah, you’ll get over. We’ll have a party having good. Yeah, um, yeah.

44:05.22
charukaarora
Of course I’m going to bring my collectibles now I also have like these boxes I Love I love them and especially I think I love collecting like I think you know even right now on my desk you’ll find like and my mom used to get so paranoid all the time because all all of that like I would.

44:10.89
Ingrid
Yeah, what are your collections. Yeah.

44:23.34
charukaarora
Like if some packing would come and I would find like little stars I would keep them and you know what something even while you’re talking about this as a child so we I used to I used to go to school and my my I will used to be the first pick up and the last drop. Okay, and even till today I’m I’m going to be 13 now. Ah. Even if you go check any of my pockets. You will always find a candy I never said this but that’s true I have a niece in both of us like even more probably more than her pockets. You’ll find all my dresses all my pants. You’d either find like you know a wrapper or like you know so i. I always have this habit like before going to school I would my mom would give me something I would just put it in my pocket and before getting back on the bus I would collect some toughies by something and always always kept at it and then even now like I I collect like I would always like I don’t know what I’m going to do with it. But I’m like just you know I really like it. Love cute stuff and like clips and like like you know, even though it’s feminine and I love I love being feminine honestly I don’t think that energy with versus what we do like the 2 very different analogs and they come when they come together. That’s what my modern mahaani what my work is also about is like how fierce and.

45:22.48
Ingrid
Who.

45:38.64
charukaarora
Feminine like coming both of them together and that’s when I saw your work That’s that’s something that always like comes to my mind because when I see those candies and those little things and I feel like it. It makes me remind of that little girl who’s always putting things in a pocket and like. Collecting those little things.

45:55.76
Ingrid
Yeah I think it’s oh I Love that. Thank you so much for sharing that So generous. Yeah I Um I think it’s important to surround yourself by like what you like to be surroundab by and that seems like such a simple thing but it’s actually very hard to do and.

46:07.81
charukaarora
Um, yeah, yeah, that’s true.

46:15.65
Ingrid
Um, you know I think about that with even interior design and like just you know you want to be around things that make you happy and there is like a real power to certainly experiences but also objects do have such power within them and. Little things and yeah, the glimmers body of work is all about dialing into those positive experiences or little moments that can put us into a ah positive mindset And. Ah, psychological term. It’s sort of like the opposite of triggers. It can. It’s relatively new and so like if you come across something that comes into your your point of view that can spin you out in a positive way like give me more of that You know what I mean we all need more.

47:06.10
charukaarora
Um, yeah, yes.

47:12.20
Ingrid
That like yeah I Love when you said like I don’t know why I am doing this but I I like to collect all of my positive things because they make me feel good on your desk I think that that is so right on that is so important and like just you know.

47:19.79
charukaarora
Um, captain.

47:29.67
Ingrid
Around all of your favorite things and and then and then you can kind of uncover like okay why is this shape and why is this texture and why is this color calling to me What can I do to research this you know this is like my own like ah deep dive and to you know why? Why is this.

47:47.50
charukaarora
That’s how you process.

47:48.87
Ingrid
Doing this to me. Why does this thing have this effect on me and then how can I do that intentionally in my work and help other people also get in a pipeive mindset. Yeah.

47:58.68
charukaarora
I Love that I Really love that do you I Do you hold jewelry.

48:04.10
Ingrid
So do I hold jewelry I do have a couple of pieces of jewelry. Yeah I don’t um I’m not like a huge jewelry person but I do have some? yeah.

48:13.48
charukaarora
But then where are these like what I’m interested to know is where are are these sources like in physical format. Um, how are you like? is it big because I think what I especially again, this could be personally like completely something very personal because my updoing and growing up in India and how I’m connecting to it. But I do see like the confetti or like the stars and like you know either i. The first thing that comes to my mind is like you know food because that’s how like you know cakes and how where do we spot these things. What I’m interested to know is like you know where are you? What is your ground 0 like. If you know where are you finding these physical objects in the first place where do you go like? do you go to like a barby store like I don’t know I mean do oh.

48:58.45
Ingrid
Oh no, just like the internet you know, just like order a bunch of stuff off the internet and then like some of it works ah out in terms of what I want for my still life and some of it doesn’t and when you are making the like the. I used to be ah more interested in figurative painting I still love figurative painting and so I probably will continue to do that. But um, you know it’s really nice to paint from still life and then you can control a lot more about like oh you know I need to do a reshoot of whatever I’m referencing or. I need to play with the lighting I need to do a different background that-da I did a whole collection of like vintage style dolls edward mobly dolls and like so little they’re like little plastic squeak toys from the 1960 s made in and.

49:48.44
charukaarora
Yeah I remember that one.

49:51.83
Ingrid
Yeah, and so that like then I was like okay yeah, Lo and I continue to do that. But maybe I should continue to do that in likes a smaller way and um, thinking about like what are the what are small things that I can paint where I can have a lot of freedom with you know, making work like that and.

50:10.18
charukaarora
Are you also sorry, go ahead quick.

50:11.46
Ingrid
Ah, confetti thing was an idea oh go ahead? Yeah, the confetti thing was an idea that I actually had for 10 years and really thought oh my god inren you’re gonna be like off the deep end if you start painting confetti just like that whole idea I couldn’t get around that.

50:19.39
charukaarora
Ah, we areli.

50:25.38
charukaarora
Oh my God yes.

50:29.23
Ingrid
Like just like the mechanics of making that type of painting I Just so now I’ve kind of blown it up and figured out how I really want to pursue that but um, may it feels more like the moment to maybe the work would be understood a little bit better now. But um. I Yeah I held onto that idea for a long time before jumping in and doing it which is not normally like yeah I Just you know, try to avoid hanging it on hanging onto it for too long and not not acting. But yeah.

51:02.82
charukaarora
Okay, my last question before we get into the rapid file which is I think one of the most important questions I want to ask and also because there’s a lot of stigma and very less conversation about it. There’s this conversation and especially like a lot of painters, especially ah thankfully I didn’t come from an art school and honestly I think. That’s how I mean I’m I’m happy for that because I came from a design school and I think it set me into a box that felt way harder to break than some when there’s no Box. There’s no set of rows you. Don’t care what I’m breaking I’m always making new Rules. So I think the pro changes but I know a lot of people especially on the podcast. They’ve said like you know how the school teachers or the the art schools have always taught them like you know or they have to be painting something serious.

51:43.45
Ingrid
Yeah.

51:58.25
charukaarora
And something needs to look serious and to be like successful or to be a serious painter like you know all those things. What is your um, did you feel a challenge in that especially within yourself like as mindset or people around and how did you deal with that.

52:15.68
Ingrid
And I guess as ah, as ah, somebody who teaches art too. I do have a lot of empathy for any professor who is is doing that as a career there is like so Much. You know, pressure in a conversation when you’re a professor and you’re giving feedback to a student. Um, you know that conversation. The power dynamic is weighted so heavily and so it’s really you know? Um I have a lot of empathy for anyone who is teaching art I Do I think that that is.

52:39.79
charukaarora
Yeah.

52:49.66
Ingrid
Ah, like quite quite a a thing to do kate your life to do. Um I think that I definitely had professors who would go down the rabbit hole and just be ridiculously giddy about whatever I was painting at the time which included some pretty ridiculous so pretty ridiculous. Things like honey boo boo flying on a ah you know, ah flying unicornned pig pet pig or something I don’t know what I was up to at the time but you know some people would go down that rabbit hole with me and be like you know all right? like let’s. Play the game. Let’s see what that is and some people you know it wasn’t necessarily their jam. But um I do think ah, um, sorry I there’s a. Bigger general narrative though that was happening within the art world that was something maybe I noticed that a little bit in school but then also just in larger context in museum spaces and some other spaces where artwork is shown. Um, and David Batchlor kind of gets into this in chromophobia and I think there was just that art. Okay, cool episode the where they did the whole recap of that which is a fabulous podcast as well. But um, they yeah and.

54:09.22
charukaarora
Um, yes to Lu Chato Toolin and

54:19.44
Ingrid
That was cool but they there is like a narrative of suffering. There’s a narrative of suffering and a set in several different ways with being an artist’s narrative like oh you’re going to live in a shack and you’re never going to have any money and it’s going to be to be really difficult that way and then there’s also a narrative of suffering in the work itself.

54:23.88
charukaarora
Um, yeah.

54:38.61
Ingrid
Where you aren’t you know and this is not all work but this this is definitely something that was happening maybe more so when I was younger and you know the work is black and white. The work is very serious. There’s a lot of drama and they talk about.

54:55.00
charukaarora
Nan.

54:57.13
Ingrid
Psychology in this way. That’s very very serious and very harsh and and I just totally reject that I’m all about like okay well take me seriously as I paint these paintings of like 50 stars and but try me then you know.

55:03.27
charukaarora
Are.

55:13.13
charukaarora
And.

55:16.57
Ingrid
Because you are around your work the most and you want to you know be around something that puts you in a positive place and it’s crucial actually to do that. It’s crucial to make work that is joyful at this time and you think about what Ingrid Fatel Lee says who does the aesthetics of joy. She’s. Super cool designer and writer and she um talks about joy as a form of resistance and I love that that really resonates with me. So yeah I just think like ah there are certain narratives going on within an art world context and. Some of them may or may not be for you and that doesn’t mean that you can’t be wildly successful and create your own path and your own community and your own success. You know outside of what is already presented to you. You know if you don’t find ah something that is what you’re in need of and you’re.

55:59.78
charukaarora
Yes.

56:14.87
Ingrid
Education or in your um like social group then go make it go do it like okay that’s where it is. That’s where the world is before you came along so like go Mitt like go make it man and like so that’s.

56:23.64
charukaarora
Um, yeah, oh Wow! Lovely. Thank you so much in it. This was so much fun.

56:32.35
Ingrid
My attitude on a lot of stuff.

56:40.20
charukaarora
But I have one last bit with you which is the rapid fire. So are you ready so give me 1 word that comes to your mind. There’s no right? No wrong. Okay, and you have to be super quick here. We go. Yes, it is.

56:44.98
Ingrid
So I am ready Yes I am ready.

56:52.67
Ingrid
Okay, oh my gosh. It’s like a pop quiz.

57:00.00
charukaarora
But fairly simple 1 one 2 3 here we go 1 thing you want to convey through your work in the arts.

57:13.18
Ingrid
I oh I’m supposed to be fast. Okay, um I okay I’m out this is hard. This is 1 thing. Okay, um I guess like ah like.

57:18.30
charukaarora
Um, your quick. Give me anything.

57:30.72
Ingrid
Ah, hope resilience screw you I’m doing in anyway attitude. But this sorry that’s not 1 word. Okay yeah.

57:31.58
charukaarora
Um, lovely I love that one I get that. Okay, what’s that 1 word that describes you the best.

57:46.40
Ingrid
Um, oh fun. Oh.

57:51.25
charukaarora
If you could have a studio anywhere in the world where would it be San Francisco the same building you have your dream studio.

57:54.34
Ingrid
I Know my studio right? where it is thrilled that. Yeah, just exactly how it is I’m thrilled with it. Yep, same building same thing I have my dream studios done. It’s over. Yep so.

58:08.00
charukaarora
Lovely I’m coming for you. Your biggest source of inspiration.

58:20.88
Ingrid
Ah, so and Dada I mean um, ah color. Yeah.

58:27.36
charukaarora
Who’s your favorite woman artist from any point of time.

58:29.20
Ingrid
Oh now this is gonna be so hard This my favorite.

58:34.34
charukaarora
Click.

58:38.85
Ingrid
Um I don’t know I’m looking forward to the Alice Neal I think Alice Neal is coming to San Francisco so I just saw her poster when I was driving so it’s like ah.

58:42.92
charukaarora
Um I Love our work. Yes. Okay.

58:53.59
Ingrid
I Have this side of my peripheral version I’m going to that but I also like um, okay, all right I like like a bunch of people. But.

58:58.87
charukaarora
Okay, who’s you go to person when you’re in trouble or in need of advice.

59:12.84
Ingrid
It’s ah I don’t um my art community I don’ it’s hard to like pick one person I have several people. Yeah, um, yeah.

59:16.37
charukaarora
Quick quick quick quick quick quick.

59:23.66
charukaarora
You can name with you. That’s okay.

59:31.17
Ingrid
Probably my partner. Yeah and and some ways in some other ways. My other best friend Emily yeah yeah, I just know this is like difficult. Yeah.

59:31.75
charukaarora
Um, okay. Okay, shower to Emily and your partner then.

59:47.10
charukaarora
But okay, this is more than 1 word I’m sure there must have been many but can you share 1 moment that made you that’s one of the favorite moments as an artist something that made you feel very grateful ecstatic gratitude or like you know, just something that you really save her.

01:00:04.96
Ingrid
Oh I’ve had a lot of these I feel extremely grateful for so many opportunities that I’ve been able to participate in and so surrounded by so much so many awesome awesome community driven artists. 1 thing that was. Really cool. Um I did this little painting oil on panel painting I think it’s like ten inches twelve Inches square and it was this little painting that I did for a daily studio project. Um is this like a 1 ne-word thing still or no wait a minute can I screw that up.

01:00:40.76
charukaarora
No, no, no, you can just share one of your incident.

01:00:44.42
Ingrid
Ah, good and and um I just thought like oh this is a daily painting I’m going to do a little daily practice. It was like a zoomed-in mouth of one of the characters from absolutely fabulous and she’s like screaming and I just is thinking like yes, go for a female female power and like she’s got this big gaudy red lips. Like and it’s just like my sort of you know, loud female aesthetic and I loved it and it was just like this little painting the painting ended up going to New York for an exhibition and then um and then ended up representing part of this. Movement sort of like the metoo movement but in Spain and was on the like a full page print of this. Um and this newspaper called El Pais which is like the New York Times of Spain and it was. Representing the metoo movement there and so just like this little painting that I made very quickly kind of as like a one day little thing went on to have this other life and I think about that with the life of the work and where this little. Painting might go and what you know you make it and then it goes off and has its own life and it just was so important to have that movement represented well and I just was so honored that they were even you know that they found the work and reach out to me were interested in that.

01:02:15.40
charukaarora
Lastly. Um, lovely. That’s so beautiful. Laugh time. Okay, if you were to meet younger ingred today. What advice would you give her.

01:02:18.91
Ingrid
And it’s cool.

01:02:28.33
Ingrid
Oh I would just hold her hand and say don’t worry. It’s gonna be better than you ever pictured like it’s gonna be so much fun and it’s gonna be so much fun. Yeah.

01:02:36.78
charukaarora
Ah, lovely shout out to an artist who’s currently on your heart list slash you loving especially on social media.

01:02:50.26
Ingrid
I love lisa go lightly’s paintings I think that’s her Instagram high handle. She does like beautiful ah Lisa go lightly.

01:02:53.87
charukaarora
Um, okay.

01:03:00.70
charukaarora
That’s Lisa okay I’m going to take the handle from you and arrow in the show. Nots. Okay, last question as a woman entrepreneur creative creative on now. What’s it 1 advice you’d like to.

01:03:06.23
Ingrid
Okay, okay.

01:03:16.71
charukaarora
Share with anyone who’s listening to this episode.

01:03:21.69
Ingrid
And I think you have to really recognize the power of the people that are around you and how much power that those people have in your life and and that can be positive and that can be not positive. You know, depending on who you’re surrounding yourself with.

01:03:26.40
charukaarora
Um, yeah.

01:03:41.40
Ingrid
Um, you know and just some thoughts from like Gary Vee he ah always says like you know, put put good voices in your ears put positivity in your ears literally listen to podcasts like this one or. You know, um, other like wonderful like um, like uplifting moments. Ah you know from other people and their stories of like where you want to go and how they got there and um, like that. It’s possible. Basically that you know. Your your wildest dreams are possible and even better and um, you know that you know it. Also you’re in it for the long game. You know if if you launch something and it doesn’t immediately work out within thirty days or something like you’re not in it for thirty days

01:04:34.60
charukaarora
Now.

01:04:35.61
Ingrid
You’re not trying out to be an artist for thirty days you’re trying about to be an artist is like oh this feels good. This will help me with my ah you know emotional regulation and positive thinking and like meditative practice for the rest of my life and so when you. Have those moments of rejection like just shoot for more rejections shoot for like a hundred rejections per year is always like the thing going around now and that’s something that I definitely did try to try to be get your long list of rejections I think Gary Vee also says like um.

01:05:08.95
charukaarora
Oh wow.

01:05:13.93
Ingrid
It’s really about the effort. You know that should be rewarded. We’re we’re all growing up in this point of time where you know our people who were raising us were like you have to be results oriented and that’s all about the result and I just you know a.

01:05:14.34
charukaarora
Yeah, um, down.

01:05:30.38
charukaarora
Lovely Amazing. Thank you so much Ingrid I can’t even like it’s been a number and the time you buy I can’t I’m just so grateful for. Thank you for your time and for our conversation.

01:05:31.37
Ingrid
Don’t see it that way.

01:05:48.70
charukaarora
My last bit is do you have anything that you want to share with us any upcoming project. Um, also everyone who’s listening to this episode where can they find you see your work support your work and please just share anything and everything that you would like to.

01:06:04.71
Ingrid
Okay, well thank you so much for having me I can’t believe it’s been an hour already just go talking on and on life who talk for hours and hourss um, ah, it’s what my Instagram is IngridVWellsINGR I d v

01:06:08.17
charukaarora
Absolutely Yes, ah we love that it.

01:06:22.56
Ingrid
In Victoria at wells w e l l s um and then it’s http://wwwwdotingridbewells.com as my website. Um April ninth of having an opening in San Francisco with Luna Rand gallery and that I have 4 paintings there I have prince for. To support the ukrainian efforts with voices of children I think I mentioned that earlier available right now at boss gallery along with other work as well in April I’m going to be doing a very fun project called music for your inbox which is a.

01:06:57.51
charukaarora
Yes.

01:07:00.43
Ingrid
Collaboration with musicians based out of la and my artwork so that will be super fun and in June I’m doing a exhibition which is going to be super fun in a clock tower in San Francisco through vox vos gallery and. And I’m going to be also doing a small painting release as part of the artist supports pledge have you heard about that? yeah.

01:07:26.15
charukaarora
Yes, yes I haven’t seen that for a while now that was quite a thing in the pandemic but wows.

01:07:32.65
Ingrid
It was and I’m like Johnny comes lately. But I’m doing it anyway. So but it’s just fun I want to figure out like how can I support my artist and with my work too. So that is super cool, small work. Anybody that.

01:07:43.83
charukaarora
Yeah.

01:07:51.58
Ingrid
Um, uses it’s like under a $200 price point and then I think after a couple of works are sold then the then the the artist who’s selling the work goes back and supports other artists. Um.

01:07:54.46
charukaarora
Yeah.

01:08:01.89
charukaarora
You vice. Um, yeah.

01:08:10.25
Ingrid
Financially purchasing their work and so it’s just a cool generous spirit project that I thought would be really fun.

01:08:14.39
charukaarora
Yes, that means a lot’s coming up so nice to hear that and I can’t wait to see you all the amazing fun joy. Lovely beautiful things that you’re doing and always sharing so much love with all of us.

01:08:19.34
Ingrid
Yes.

01:08:33.20
charukaarora
Thank you so much again I want to say a big thank you for your time for your honesty for your thoughts and your experiences and so glad to have you here and I am so thrilled because anyone who’s listening Inger will also be a part of the studio book that I’m writing and working on right now which is. Coming from a studio visit project that I did in the pandemic. We will be reopening and doing the season 2 of the studio visit series soon. But till that hold on to this episode and in that meanwhile you can also go in the show notes of this episode and. Do like a studio visit with indrit and me after this episode and then we’ll see you back in the book. Um, yeah, and everyone who’s joined us. Thank you so much for your time if you liked this episode of this podcast a review would really help us and keep the show going. Please make sure that wherever you’re listening this leave a small review just it a it. It feels very very I mean I feel very grateful to hear from all of you and I’m sure that it’ll help us reach way more people like all of you and in red. So yeah. Thank you so much ingrid you have any last favour words.

01:09:52.85
Ingrid
I Mean just thank you again so much for having me on this stuff. Fabulous I Love being in touch with you and it’s just so great to hear about everything in your studio too and you know have have you had like an interview of like a selfin interview or somebody else interview for the frackets I mean that’s.

01:09:59.38
charukaarora
Absolutely.

01:10:07.70
charukaarora
No, no yes, that would be cool. That’s such a nice idea. Actually I have to put I have to put one of you on that job now. Yes, let’s do that. Let’s open that.

01:10:11.48
Ingrid
Seems like it would be good.

01:10:19.60
Ingrid
And that’d be fun. Yeah, okay, cool. Okay, so okay, yeah.

01:10:27.20
charukaarora
With season 2 you I’ll take the heart seat for that. Let’s do that. Okay, thank you so much I’ll see you soon 9

01:10:30.10
Ingrid
Okay, cool I’ll do it. Whatever you want.

01:10:40.90
Ingrid
Bye. Thank you.

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